This conversation explores cyber resilience strategies for CISOs in risk-based decision making. The discussion emphasizes the importance of integrating cyber resilience into organizations and the challenges and best practices in safeguarding digital ecosystems. The guest, Gokulavan Jayaraman, shares insights on defining cyber resilience within the context of risk-based decision making and its crucial role in modern organizations. The conversation also covers the challenges faced by CISOs post-COVID, including the shift to remote work and the need for stronger endpoint security. The guest provides advice on continuous learning, attack surface management, and the importance of testing for resilience.